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Saturday, July 31, 2010

Will India's diplomatic reversals get a short respite? Moin Ansari


Bharat (aka India) has been facing colossal reverses in its Foreign Policy. Will the orchestrated Leaks, and Cameron claptrap give Delhi a respite?

The recent happening in Delhi show that for a few Dollars of Pounds the leader of the "nation of shopkeepers" will say anything. While the Labor Foreign Secretary brought up the "K" word in Delhi a while back, Prime Minister Cameron has used the Delhi line to disparage Pakistan. Milliband was catering to the Labor constituencies in Leeds, Manchester, Bradford and Birmingham, and Mr. Cameron was kowtowing to the few Pound Sterling that his military would be able to scrounge from Delhi.

Mr. Cameron's immature remarks caused a furor in Britain. Mr. Milliband called Mr. Cameron a "Loudmouth", and many British conservative papers excoriated the Prime Minister for being undiplomatic. The reaction in Pakistan as expected was one of indignation and anger. Pakistanis were livid. There was tremendous pressure on President Zardari to cancel his trip to London. The PPPP wanted him to go. In the end the Foreign Office came up with a compromise--General pasha would cancel his trip, and Mr. Zardari would go. FM Shah Mahmud Qureshi called it unfortunate, and Mr. Basit the eloquent Foreign Office spokesman  called it unfortunate. Shireeen Mazari and the Pakistani press was less diplomatic. Some even called for degrading cooperation with the British. The British High Commissioner was called and asked to explain the British position.

The Cameron statement was part of the orchestrated campaign to malign Pakistan. First came the Wikileaks, and then the Cameron statements. Obviously the rookie prime Minister had carefully weighed what he was going to say in front of a Pakistanphobic audience  in Delhi. It had the desired affect. Of course the Bharati were elated. they had scored a diplomatic coup--in an otherwise arid foreign policy landscape.

While the UK may have sold some gadgets, the long term gains remain elusive for 10 Downing Street. Mr. Cameron will face an invigorated British-Pakistanis electorate in the next elections. If Pakistan decides to take any serious action against the UK--Britain can face serous hardships in Afghanistan.
While the Wikileaks were on a 96 hour news cycle, and most US sources after having discussed them threadbare are beginning to move on to new subjects--the Bharati (aka Indian) media is clinging on to them and the orchestrated immature statements by the British Prime Minister. Delhi is getting full mileage of the so called 90,000 "leaks". Only a few of them actually discuss Pakistan, but the Pakistaniphobic campaign led by the New York Times and the UK Guardian only focuses on the old and archaic news items filed by Afghan "agents". Till recently the Afghan Intelligence agencies were fully in the hands of the Bharati RAW. In the days gone by the RAW men were so powerful that in a well documented incident Mr. Karzai was scolded by the head of the RAW in Kabul.

Most of the old field reports were fed by Bharati intelligent agencies. These reports filed from Kabul have now become part of the Wikileaks--used by the New York Times to malign Pakistan and try to halt its growing influence in Afghanistan.

The way the news has been sliced, diced and presented by the New York Times, it ensures that the real story of the Wikileaks can be obfuscated by the sensational Anti-Pakistanism.
The Bharati elation at the Wikileaks will be short lived. However Bharat may stage a spectacular event to put pressure on Pakistan. Another Mumbai will create issues in South Asia, and push it back another decade.

Much of the Leaks deal with the targeted killings and murder of civilians by the US, ISAF and NATO forces. However the Sunday news shows and even Al-Jazeera did not focus on the human rights atrocities and the war crimes. Pakistan is the favorite whipping boy of the US media--especially the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal.

Now that the US media is beginning to get tired of the Leaks, another batch will be released targeting Pakistan. The Leaks have tried to drive a wedge between Afghanistan and Pakistan. The usual suspects in Afghanistan--the Pakistanphobes are cropping up in Afghanistan making the same old noises as before.

The Bharati carping will continue.

The short term affects of the Leaks have been a lot of discussion in the media. However the Obama Administration has not shown an indication of a change in its Afghan policy.

The Europeans are leaving the Hindu Kush next year. The Americans will follow--Cameron's grandstanding not withstanding.

America has few options in Afghanistan. She has to work with Pakistan in order to get a face saving exit. The Leaks anger the very people that the US and the UK banks on to help them out. No foreign army can assist NATO, ISAF and the US forces--except the Pakistani Army.

Maligning the Pakistani Army and the Pakistani Intelligence Services (ISI) is counterproductive to American interests. While the US Administration has rushed to do damage control, with the White House and the State Department calling the Pakistani President and the Prime Minister--the Afghan president was forced to make some ugly noises which he will have to regret.

Pakistan demanded an explanation from Mr. Hamid Karzai, and the press heard some inaudible and incomprehensible gurgling noises which went something like this "the press has made something out of this".

Despite the media headlines in the Bharati press, the fact remains that most US officials have come out to defend Pakistan. The Bharati media of course is publishing the fallout by editing the statements and publishing only part that suit their agenda.

While India's recent diplomatic reversals get a short respite, the fact remains that in the long run, the Bharati machinations will create more enemies in Pakistan. Already the number of doves in Pakistan are becoming less and less. Even Mr. Zardari who started out as very accommodating towards Bharat has not turned hawkish. The Pakistan Ambassador to the US--often called the US Ambassador to Pakistan is incensed at the US and also at Bharat. If the most pro-India elements in Pakistan are now mad at Bharat, the hawks will have a field day. Bharati short-sightedness in the Wikileaks affair will have consequences for Delhi. An abrogation of any Afghan trade to Bharat is the most likely first casualty of the Wikileaks. There will be more negative affects for Bharat.

Those who want Bharat evicted from Afghanistan will be emboldened and become more firm in their resolve. Anti-Americanism will grow in the area, and this can never be good for America.
The long term blow back from the leaks will harm US interests in Pakistan and in Afghanistan. The leaks confirm the US stereotype--self-centered, untrustworthy and fickle.

The US has to begin withdrawing troops from Afghanistan. The Afghans want to talk to the Afghan National Resistance (aka Taliban). All roads to peace in Kabul run through Islamabad. Mr. Karzai knows this.

In the end Mr. Karzai will kiss and make up, and the US will continue to bank on the only game in town called the Pakistan Army.


( Moin Ansari. The author is the Editor of the very popular sites called Rupee News and Pakistan Patriot .He is a Political Scientist, and an Expert on International Relations--focusing on South and West Asia).

39 comments:

  1. very well written article. couldn't agree more.

    except for one point or two.

    the US did not come out to defend pakistan. NOT AS STRONGLY as the words came out from mr. cameron's mouth.

    secondly, mr. zardari has not turned "hawkish", atleast not against his foreign friends, including India........... his only "hawkishness" is for us poor chaps in the country, known as the commoners, the people of pakistan.

    as the nation mourns one calamity after another, the president is all set to sail in the basking (or not) sun of england. with 90 people (or more), 7,000£ per night stay. bravo!

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  2. I agree with Mr Moin Ansari that maligning the Pakistani Army and the Pakistani Intelligence Services (ISI) is counterproductive to American interests. But then, is it?

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  3. David Miliband, the former foreign secretary and Labour leadership contender, has RIGHTLY told Cameron that he is a "big mouth".
    Pakistan took the rare step of issuing an official rebuttal.A senior Pakistani intelligence official confirmed that Lt. Gen. Ahmed Shujaa Pasha had called off a trip planned for next week, when he had been due to discuss security cooperation with British intelligence bosses. Britain's Foreign Office said a visit to Britain by Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari is still scheduled to go ahead next week. Zardari is due to stay with Cameron at his country retreat, Chequers.
    Do you think there will be tension between the two at the "retreat"?
    Personally I think AZ should go AND make the displeasure of the people felt to the Ex-Masters.

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  4. Wikileaks are well designed to whip up American public opinion against Afghan War.India is taking adavantage of the fall out.It will die down after some time.India stands exposed to the world.Cameroon's statement is a ploy to take in some Indian money.British are big suckers.

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  5. I think the response in Pakistan to Cameron outburst is quite satisfactory,we hope that the indian media realises earliest the futality about their compaign to malign ISI and the Pakistan army.
    As the writer points out , there is no other option for USA/Nato for a safe exit from afghanistan than to get support from Pakistan army.The nation need not be worried, i am confident that Cameron recent remarks and the Wikileaks would not have any serious impacts on the plans of Pak Army

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  6. I am in receipt of a mail by Col. Shahbaz that I would like to share here:
    Moin Ansari has given good analysis;No one PM or President in Pakistan is there to defend ;David Milliband has defended us well.May be we should handover back to UK
    The only Option for US/NATO is for early exit;which can only be done with the coop of PAKISTAN but without any role for INDIA. Sooner US/UK/NATO understand the better.


    Muhammad Shahbaz Thuthaal

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  7. Enjoyed reading that. A good analysis.
    The comments will be welcomed in India which has long accused Pakistan of harbouring and abetting extremist groups such as Lashkar-e-Taiba which New Delhi blames for attacks like the murderous 2008 assault by militant gunmen on Mumbai.
    n a trip seen as a test of Cameron's new focus on business in foreign policy, manufacturing groups BAE Systems and Rolls-Royce used the first day to unveil two defence deals with India worth a combined one billion dollars.
    Money talks?

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  8. I would like to share here a comment & link by CNN's Paul Wolf during an exchange on Face Book Wall:
    I cant find any of the sensational documents about Pakistan in the Wikileaks material on their website. I even downloaded all the reports as comma-separated-variable data... that can be opened in Excel. When I search for Hamid Gul, or strings of text found in the sensational documents on the NYT website, they're not there. So I'm wondering if the 15,000 pages Assange is withholding have already been given to the newspapers, and he's just withholding them from his website.

    For example, this one would be interesting to read in unredacted form. The Pakistani government should answer for it, either charge the individual with a crime, kick him out of ISI, or be forced to admit they are doing this. Any of those options would be preferable to this news media attack, which cannot be defended against. How can Pakistan say this isn't true without even knowing who is being accused?

    http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/world/26warlogs.html#report/77416559-2219-0B3F-9F7E4882DB6FBB4E

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  9. Packed with a bevy of top ministers and a small army of business leaders, Cameron's visit to India was tagged as a mould-breaking mission to redefine what Cameron's government sees as a long-neglected relationship with one of the world's fastest-growing economies.
    But he really shot his mouth off there!
    In an exclusive article for The Independent on Sunday, Former foreign secretary David Miliband likens Mr Cameron to "a cuttlefish squirting out ink" during his visits to Turkey and India last week. "Pakistan is the region's tinderbox," Mr Miliband writes. "We have 10,000 young men and women at risk in Afghanistan. Only a political settlement can bring an end to the war.
    Well, Mr Cameron certainly needs classes in diplomacy. That's for sure!

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  10. Irrespective of what Islamabad and the British opposition may have to say about Cameron’s comments, India is fully supportive for it has also long accused Pakistan for exporting terrorism. Little chance does this leave any peace dialogue to restart between Islamabad and New Delhi. The two have barely gotten over the unpleasantness created because of accusations levelled at ISI by Indian Home Minister Pillai on the eve of Indian foreign minister S. M. Krishna’s recent visit to Islamabad.
    So I will agree with Miilibad when he says Cameron is a "loud mouth".
    Quoting Editorial Khaleej Times(1st August):
    So what should Pakistan do? It is a critical ally of the coalition forces, which includes Britain. It is also engaged in efforts to mediate negotiation with Afghan insurgents to aid Karzai’s Reconciliation and Reintegration strategy. While it is being continuously reprimanded to do more, its sacrifices are being conveniently overlooked. It is time Pakistan does more than have a typical reprimand issued from its Foreign Office. It should get all its unhappy allies together and answer every single charge in full. It must also take a stand that hurling accusations are hardly going to help the allies working together.

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  11. Well analysed Summaya.Altaf, Muqam, Imran want resources diverted to flood victims, after Zardari cancels his visit to UK.Shahbaz Sharif has made this appeal to President Zardari during his visit to the Jinnah Barrage in Mianwali. Putting Prez in a spot . :-)
    eparately, MQM chief Altaf Hussain, in a statement, expressed his sadness over British Prime Minister David Cameron’s remarks, asking President Asif Ali Zardari to review his decision to visit Britain.(ONE WONDERS THOUGH AS A PROTEST WHY ALTAF DOES'NT LEAVE UK?)
    Point is, it's lot of hot gas. Prez will go. He will gin his way through the visit. Any wonder we get booted around?

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  12. Pakistan president Asif ali Zaradari has decided to go ahead with his planned visit to the UK this week despite a huge diplomatic row after David Cameron accused Pakistan of playing double game in war against Taliban.Mr Cameron ignored the ground realities of Pakistan sacrificing thousands of lives in war against terror.
    What made matters worse for Pakistan was that this accusation came on Cameron,s visit to India.Now question is that after such a ridiculous statement by Cameron while sitting in India should Zardari go ahead with his visit to the UK or respect the feelings of Pakistani nation and cancel his visit as a protest.

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  13. Sameeh,pressure is mounting on the Prez not to make the visit. Gen Pasha has already withdrawn from terror talks in USA. This was the solution arrived at by Pakistan.Cancel one & let the other go.
    In reality, Pakistan has suffered the most since the horrific 9/11. The strategic geographical location of Pakistan makes it even harder. Military and civilian lives have been lost, budgets have been disturbed and the entire nation has been exposed to one catastrophe after another. This has all happened because Pakistan helped to fight against terrorism by joining hands with the US and UK.n the light if all this, it is rather unfair of Mr. David Cameron to falsely accuse Pakistan of such an act.
    People across the country, politicians from the government and opposition parties and bureaucrats have all been pestering Zardari not to go. They feel it is an insult for the country to visit UK after the humiliating treatment by their Prime minister.

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  14. It is an interesting article Moin. Can you tell me. what are the long term fallout impact you see of Cameron's statement and Wikileaks drama on Pakistan in months to come? It is generally being openly stated that all this is leading to a frame up of Pakistan. But frame up to WHAT?
    Can you elucidate Moin Sahib?

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  15. I am in receipt of a mail by Col. Jafri being shared:
    The Loud Mouth

    The way the loud mouth David Cameron castigated Pakistan and that too on the Indian soil in public, a statesman would not do so even behind the closed doors in the country being targeted by him. But, of course that applies only to a statesman! Obviously his utterances which were to cajole the Indians with an eye on the billion pound future business prospects, especially sale of the fighter aircraft to the IAF, have been very rightly condemned by all segments of Pakistani society. People expected Zardari to cancel his forthcoming official visit to UK in protest but I suppose it is too late at this stage as all preparations for the visit involving millions have already been made. However, the least Mr. Zardari can do now is to convey the true feelings of every Pakistani in unambiguous words to the Brit in his meeting with him. The immature Cameron must be told clearly to observe the diplomatic norms during his future utt erances at home and abroad or else it could provoke some very unpleasant repercussions for the UK. Enough is enough.

    Col. Riaz Jafri (Retd)

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  16. The president will hold a few minutes meeting with the British Prime Minister David Cameron at the Chequers, despite Mr Cameron’s public insults to Pakistan on allegedly exporting terror, but the cost of his visit will be enormous.President Zardari and his entourage will stay at the five-star luxury hotel Hyatt Regency London-nearly half of the ninth exclusive floor called Regency Club Level, which has 18 suites and 10 executive type luxury rooms, has been booked and blocked for any commoner to venture into on the grounds of security reasons.Nearly half of the rooms will not be used at all as some of the delegation members will be accommodated in other cheap-rented rooms, but still the full rent will be paid.
    President Zardari will stay in one of the booked the Royal Suites, the most expensive luxury suites which cost around £7,000 per night for each room.
    Around 10-12 luxury cars have been hired at the cost of £400 per vehicle and they will be engaged with the delegation for the entire duration of the presidential visit.
    The conference hall at the International Convention Centre in Birmingham will cost not less than £40,000 according to a conservative estimate.
    So if the Government has this money why not use it for the flood effectees instead of this pomp & show after the insult of OUR time?

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  17. a deal has concluded that said Mr. Pasha won't go to the UK, but the president will.

    first off, i don't believe that he would take the sentiments of his people to the British P.M. in their entirety.

    secondly, IF he was so honest in his visit, the least he could do was to cut short his stay there. and also his contingent. not doing so only means one thing which we already know, that people like the present politicians do NOT have the guts to put up a better case for Pakistan.

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  18. Brilliant Faisal.Indeed he can cut short his visit. Chut bhi mairee aur put bhi mairee. Wish you were his advisor instead of his goons.

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  19. Foreign trips, routine press releases, messages of sympathy,deals , gang loot and plunder and the ever extended begging bowl. Carry on the champions of democracy and good governance.You encourage the likes of Cameron to treat you like dirt.
    The current Quartet is the perfect recipe for destruction of Pakistan.

    The sooner we break it, the better are chances of our survival…….
    It has all the negatives of Ali Baba and Chalees chorr set up……
    One, We have a bird brain PM who is no more than a cheap robot made
    in Multan…
    Two, there is this CJ who is a juggler in dishing out selective
    justice, mainly driven by self-interest…
    Three, our COAS is extremely shrewd, using his outwardly deaf, dumb,
    blind pesona to his best personal advantage…
    Four, we have the smartest street urchin as our Prez , whose religion
    is “shameless corruption”. The best in sex, lies, and deceit..ever.
    This flesh eating hyena has cleverly distributed the bones and
    leftovers to the second-tier scavengers in the Punjab(NS/SS), Sind( AH/
    PPP), KPK( IV/JUI ) and Baluchistan (PP/ANP).
    This smart Alec is as carefree and unchallenged as can be.
    There you have Pakistan and its 200 million innocent souls, at the
    mercy of the most powerful, extremely corrupt Mafia at the helm !!!
    Camerons of the world win not because they perform well, but because we are always found with our pants down.
    HH

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  20. Moin Ansari, is a true nationalist,he always defends our Flag, from the Hindutva agenda,which is based on distorting and twisting facts.

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  21. @ Laila, :-) if i were his advisor, i would have created a guinness record for the shortest term at being an advisor anywhere in the world.

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  22. The "Pakophobes" have run Afghanistan for decades going back to the independence period when they refused to accept us as a sovereign state.

    Weather Pakhtun, Tajik, they will badmouth as 24-7. I think it's time we get tougher with the Afghans. You're right about the Western media playing blame Pakistan. But the Indians and Afghans only add to it. Unless we give the Afghans a taste of their own medicine, they'll only keep this up.

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  23. i dont remember the Pakhtun taliban government to badmouth pakistan, ever. nor do i recall a major force in Afganistan, the Hezb-e Islami to do the same.

    it has always been either the communist based groups, or the groups with friendly relations to India that have bad mouthed us, including Masood's Northern Alliance.

    how many Afgans' anti-Pakistan statements can be seen in the western media???

    how many Indian statements???

    how many US/NATO alliance statements???

    the correct formula should be, to give US/NATO alliance a taste of their own medicine, then,

    to give India a taste of its own medicine, and ONLY AFTER THEN,

    to give Afganistan a taste of its own medicine.

    besides, no one is so naive as to believe that statements coming from Afganistan these days (with US/NATO incharge of Karzai's security) are not pushed forward by the men behind the puppet.

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  24. AA: Wonderful to meet all of you.

    I thank all the good things that have been said about me and the article.

    An early Happy Independence Day to one and all

    Sorry about the delayed response--we are out celebrating Pakistan Day in New York today--the annual disorganized chaotic parade and concert that we yearn for and enjoy...but I digress!

    It is sad that the President of Pakistan has not canceled the trip to the UK. The cancellation would have sent a tremendous message to Britain's Conservative Prime Ministers.

    Imran Khan, and the Sharifs and almost every major political party has opposed the visit--but Mr. Zardari wants to go--we guess to check on Surray Palace and to ensure that the country may give him asylum if he has to flee.

    Mr. Cameron was of course playing to the military industrial complex selling hardware to Bharat---while also giving hundreds of millions of Pounds Sterling in aid to the Bharat. Delhi is the largest recipient in the world of British Aid.

    Faisal said:

    >>mr. zardari has not turned "hawkish", atleast not against his foreign friends, including India

    When Mr. Zardari took office, he announced that "Kashmir would be left to the next generation", and he announced "No First Use of Nuclear Weapons". He also announced Transit Trade to Afghanistan via Pakistan. All these things were reversed--Mr. Zardari shouted from the Azad Kashmir legislature "We will fight a thousand years, and liberate Kashmir", and he transferred the Nuclear triggers to the PM--who renounced the Zardari No-First-use doctrine. Mr. Zardari also did not give transit rights to Bharat--at least not overtly--and the Transit Trade Agreement has not been signed or ratified. it should not be ratified.

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  25. Pakistan must demand the return to the Wakhan Corridor from Afghanistan so that Pakistan can open three passes and connect directly to Tajiksitan. We want to build roads and rails to Fergana and Dushambe, and don't want the Afghan Panhandle to be an impediment. If Kabul wants us to send it goods, it should give up the Wakhan Corridor---but I digress.

    The point of bringing up these issues is that Mr. Zardari has in fact listened to Pakistan and is not as complaint as he used to be.

    The Cost issue though valid is Mr. Ayaz Mir's usual rhetoric to disparage any and everything. It may or may not be pertinent. Of course the ideal situation would be an Ahmedinijad budget trip--but that would require Mr. Zardari to give up his Seville Row suits and Brooks Brother's shirts.

    The major point is that Pakistan has the ability to snub Britain's Cameron and should. Mr. Zardari is hoping to get more UK Aid (to be announced on this trip), so he does not want to jeopardize that package!--however such packages can be accepted at a later date.

    With ref to Mr. Wolf--there are 8 references to Retired General Hamid Gul and hundreds of other references all listed on our site. Mr. Obama says he already know all of this! So why the tempest in a tea cup?

    >>Can you tell me. what are the long term fallout impact you see of Cameron's statement and Wikileaks drama on Pakistan in months to come?

    Ubaid--as political scientists, investigative historians and experts in international relations, we continue to monitor the situation. Admiral Mullen, Ambassador Holbrooke, President Obama have all stated that their policy towards Pakistan will "continue". Whatever that means. In the long run--the orchestrated Wikileaka and Cameron's claptrap will mean nothing. We already know that Bharat is trying to partition Afghanistan. This rump Pakhtun state in Afghanistan will be used by Bharat to put pressure on Pakistani Pakhtuns. Our analysts already know this scenario--Bharat will not succeed to create these ethnic divides becuase the Afghan National Resistance (aka Taliban, Haqqanis, Hikmatyar etc)is not a Pakhtun organization anymore--it includes the Hazaras, Uzbeks and Tajiks too. In fact a recent article in the NY Times described how the Afghan National Resistance had reached the Amu Darya (Oxus) and beyond. Already the Afghan National Resistance is allied with the IMU and the Tajik Rebels.

    We constantly update the situation, but you have to read it on this site and on Rupee News and Pakistan Patriot.

    Keep asking the questions, I will try to visit as often as I can!

    Was Salam

    Do visit us at pakistan patriot and rupee news

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  26. Pakistan must demand the return to the Wakhan Corridor from Afghanistan so that Pakistan can open three passes and connect directly to Tajiksitan. We want to build roads and rails to Fergana and Dushambe, and don't want the Afghan Panhandle to be an impediment. If Kabul wants us to send it goods, it should give up the Wakhan Corridor---but I digress.

    The point of bringing up these issues is that Mr. Zardari has in fact listened to Pakistan and is not as complaint as he used to be.

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  27. The Cost issue though valid is Mr. Ayaz Mir's usual rhetoric to disparage any and everything. It may or may not be pertinent. Of course the ideal situation would be an Ahmedinijad budget trip--but that would require Mr. Zardari to give up his Seville Row suits and Brooks Brother's shirts.

    The major point is that Pakistan has the ability to snub Britain's Cameron and should. Mr. Zardari is hoping to get more UK Aid (to be announced on this trip), so he does not want to jeopardize that package!--however such packages can be accepted at a later date.

    With ref to Mr. Wolf--there are 8 references to Retired General Hamid Gul and hundreds of other references all listed on our site. Mr. Obama says he already know all of this! So why the tempest in a tea cup?

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  28. >>Can you tell me. what are the long term fallout impact you see of Cameron's statement and Wikileaks drama on Pakistan in months to come?

    Ubaid--as political scientists, investigative historians and experts in international relations, we continue to monitor the situation. Admiral Mullen, Ambassador Holbrooke, President Obama have all stated that their policy towards Pakistan will "continue". Whatever that means. In the long run--the orchestrated Wikileaka and Cameron's claptrap will mean nothing. We already know that Bharat is trying to partition Afghanistan. This rump Pakhtun state in Afghanistan will be used by Bharat to put pressure on Pakistani Pakhtuns. Our analysts already know this scenario--Bharat will not succeed to create these ethnic divides becuase the Afghan National Resistance (aka Taliban, Haqqanis, Hikmatyar etc)is not a Pakhtun organization anymore--it includes the Hazaras, Uzbeks and Tajiks too. In fact a recent article in the NY Times described how the Afghan National Resistance had reached the Amu Darya (Oxus) and beyond. Already the Afghan National Resistance is allied with the IMU and the Tajik Rebels.

    We constantly update the situation, but you have to read it on this site and on Rupee News and Pakistan Patriot.

    Keep asking the questions, I will try to visit as often as I can!

    Was Salam

    Do visit us at pakistan patriot and rupee news

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  29. BTW:

    Here is spin from the presidency

    The visit of Zardari and his trip to Birmingham are embroiled in a controversy with a section of the Pakistani media claiming that huge sums of money are being spent on the visit.


    Pakistan's press and information department, in a release, said Sunday the president will 'visit Birmingham by car' to economise. It added: 'The hall booked by the High Commission is the cheapest hall available at a very special discounted price. Pakistan Peoples Party will bear expenses for the vans carrying the party activists to the community meeting. All ministers and senior members of the party have been instructed to pay their bills themselves.'


    The release said upon his scheduled arrival Monday, President Zardari 'will stay in the cheapest five-star hotel in city centre which provides best corporate room rates to Pakistan High Commission during his official visit' to Britain between Aug 3-8.


    About the transportation and food costs for the visit, the release said: 'The High Commission has booked eight-seater vans for the delegates which would cost three times less than luxury cars. Food has been arranged for the delegates from a Pakistani restaurant at an unbelievable price for which even one cannot buy a sandwich in London.'

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  30. regarding the change in attitude towards India from the president:

    "We will fight a thousand years, and liberate Kashmir"

    Do you think that while saying this he was just exercising the routine? what action has been taken in this regard that actually signifies the fact that he has reversed his position instead of just "public addresses"? the situation in occupied kashmir has worsened in the past few weeks. what has the government to show for their positive attitude towards the kashmiris???

    2. yes he transferred the Nuclear triggers to the PM , BUT not willingly. imho, a lot of pressure from the powers that be made it possible.

    3. the PM is the chief executive BUT has to listen to the president before making any decision. thats their party policy.

    and yes, the transit trade agreement should not be ratified.

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  31. Well said, Moin Ansari, The Wahkhan Corridor created by the Brtish in the 19th Century must be Returned back to us,it is a integral part of our Gilgit-Baltistan,entity.

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  32. the point you make about Wakhan corridor is very important.

    kudos for bringing that up, as i didnt have that info in my knowledge.

    yes, i also read about the president house statement regarding the costs of the visit.

    y even the "cheapest"? its still a 5 star. he is after all a president of a poor state that is being run on (HIV)aids. wajid shamsul hassan is his friend, is he not? y not stay at his place. i am sure he will be more than happy to accomodate the president.

    rest of the people can stay at the high commission building. or at "millions and millions" of pppp supporters's homes that live in the UK.

    go green people ;-) save the country!!!

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  33. Excellent input by Moin Ansari. Great job Moin.
    Readers are welcome to ask questio but related to the subject only.
    Best
    YAA

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  34. A good analysis by Moin Ansari. I doubt very much if canceling DG ISI's visit was a compromise action. The ISI chief decided on his own as any honorable Pakistani would have done. The people's man, on the other hand, neglected people's voice and decided to visit UK. and why not; he3 is sitting where he is for the benefit of Pakistan. He is there for his own goodies. so when he has a chance to look after his investments in UK at our expense in 7 star pac kage, why the hell not. Has any Pakistani ever seen him doing anything for or in the interest of Pakistan except robbing and raping this poor country.British PM should not be condemned for what he said. In fact he did what is good for his country--UK, after over 10 years of hard work has signed a deal to sell 60 advanced Hawk jets to India. The PM owes it to his country and people. so why should he defend Pakistan at the cost of British interests. all rulers are not like ours. That is how democratic we are. Allah save Pakistan from Pakistanis; in or out of power.
    Zubair

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  35. Zubair
    I appreciate your feelings as a pakistani & would like to share excerpt of editorial by Khallej Times(today):
    "There is no alternative to diplomacy. Inter-state relations can only be better served through a sustained dialogue process, rather than kneejerk reactions. This is why it is important for Pakistan President Asif Ali Zardari to do some plain-speaking on his forthcoming visit to United Kingdom, and try to undo the damage done by British Prime Minister David Cameron’s recent remarks against Pakistan." The rest is claptrap against Pakistan & why not.Both Editor & Asst Editor for the paper are Indians.

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  36. Faisal and other team members

    I hated and despised Mr Zardari when he came to office. However his policy of consensus has paid off. The NFC Awards, the 18th amendment, the water flow issue are fantastic feats. I don't let my personal judgments on his character interfere with national interests.

    On Kashmir the PPPP government has "returned' to Pakistan's principled stance on "UN Resolutions". This had been diluted by all this nonsense about "borders being irrelevant". If you read the Bharati papers--they blame Pakistan for the new intifada. Certainly the Pro-Pakistani Kashmiri leaders are running the show, Geelani, Andarabi, Alam, Fuktoo and others who had been criminally marginalized by the previous government

    We have written a lot about the historical treachery on giving away Pakistan's Wakhan corridor to "Afghanistan"--an artificial state constructed by the British (by taking parts of Pakistan, Tajikistan, and Uzbekistan)as a buffer region between the British and Russian empires. You can also read about it on Pakhistorian.

    Editor Rupee News

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  37. We need your help is burying the word "Partition".

    We gained independence from the British--we were not partitioned off any country called "India"--which was never one country ever--always a conglomeration of hundreds of states.

    Read about it on August 14th, 2010 on Pakistan Patriot.

    Celebrating ‘Independence Day’ not ‘Partition Day’

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  38. Bravo to that one Moin. I agree 100%.In my years of research, I have found Partition is an incorrect word. Sind-wa-Hind are 2 separate entities.Unlike Nehru's concept of the inverted pyramid on which this word is based, in reality it is a broad based pyramid with tribes in Sindh Valley(present Pakistan) that have no nexus with the Indians.

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